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Trajes de baño pregunta

Joanna-W10 September 20, 2015, 2:52 pm
Hola! 

Why is the word swimsuit "trajes de baño"  and not "trajes del baño"? I would think it would be del because it is de + el, no? 

Gracias! 
 
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Steven-W15 September 21, 2015, 5:47 am
When and when not to use articles can be tough. The following is an example of how the meaning changes depending on the inclusion (or not) of an article:
La cara de la luna - the face of the moon
La cara de luna - the moon face

 
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KelllaurBailar September 21, 2015, 1:47 pm
I think most times it depends on how detailed you want to be. Like if you said the mouth of the dog, you would say, "el boca del perro"...or you could just say "el boca de perro", which basically means (like Steven said, "the moon face") "the dog mouth".
I also think it's funny that in the words for "swimsuit" Spanish speakers use "baño". I've never been known to swim in the bathtub, but it's just one of those things (why do we drive on the parkway, and park on the driveway?).
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Dan-H24 September 21, 2015, 5:06 pm
I agree with Steven: deciding when to use or not use a definite article is challenging, and in some cases is counterintuitive to an English speaker. For example, my understanding is that you use a definite article if you are talking about things in general, such as:
 
La cerveza es prueba de que Dios nos ama y quiere que seamos felices.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Also, regarding the Spanish word for swimsuit, I wonder if it is related to the fact that in olden days people went to the public baths, which seems analogous to a modern day swimming pool.
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Joanna-W10 September 21, 2015, 5:12 pm
Thank you for your responses! This helps 
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KelllaurBailar September 21, 2015, 10:36 pm
Wow, Dan! Creative sentence there! I wouldn't have thought of that
before now
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Dan-H24 September 22, 2015, 1:41 am
Kellaur: I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. It is
usually attributed to Benjamin Franklin, but he apparently didn't
say it either. So heck, maybe I can take credit for it! In any
case, I agree with whoever did say it.
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marieg-rocket languages September 22, 2015, 8:05 pm
Hi guys!

It's a good question In this case, "de" is acting here as a preposition with the meaning of "for" in English. If you used "del" it would imply "of"  as if the suit belonged to the bath hehe

If it sounds awkward, you can also call it "bañador".

Cheers!
 
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KelllaurBailar September 22, 2015, 9:25 pm
And "bañador" is also 2 syllables shorter!
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