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use of "you desu" ようです

John-P151 April 9, 2015, 9:24 am
Hi. I was reading about the use of "you desu" in Japanese.:ようです
In using it to describe conjecture or resemblance, it is used with nouns + の;なーadjectives + な or with verbs in the plain form, right?

However, I came across this sentence:
君の部屋はひどい散らかりようですね。
I was wondering if anyone could help explain why the verb here (散らかります) was used in the -masu (- ます) form?
Thank you!
john

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use of "you desu" ようです
keiko-rocket-japanese-tutor April 11, 2015, 7:30 am
Dear John,

The ways of using よう is not restricted to: nouns + の;な- adjectives + な or with verbs in the plain form. 

You would usually use な- adjectives + な but with some adjectives you can add よう straight after the adjective. 

When 散らかります becomes 散らかり it's turned from a verb 散らかります into an adjective 散らか and in this case you can use よう (it seems that/it appears that) straight after it. 

Keiko
use of "you desu" ようです
John-P151 April 11, 2015, 1:59 pm
Dear Keiko - san:

Thank you for the reply. Sorry could I ask: isn't the adjective for messy in this case be 散らかった instead of 散らかり (which is actually the ます form)?

thank you!
john

 
use of "you desu" ようです
keiko-rocket-japanese-tutor April 13, 2015, 11:36 pm
Hi John, 

Sorry I made a mix-up. 
When you turn 散らかる・ます into 散らかり it becomes a noun. It means "a mess/scatter". Or depending on the context of the sentence can also be a 散らかる + conjunction particle り.
But in this case it makes it into a noun that means "messiness or scattering". It's a noun but it describes the state of messiness and scattering so it wasn't as clear whether it's working as a noun or an adjective sorry.
I hope this helps!
use of "you desu" ようです

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