Forum Point Cheaters

Point Cheaters

BongiornoFamily

BongiornoFamily

THIS IS TO MUCH! 

THESE POINT SCORES?!?!?!??!?

 

fix it please

 

1st

 

Ron-Antibes's avatar

Ron-Antibes

1,371 days

9,446,612

2nd

 

nóng fū's avatar

nóng fū

52 days

5,683,204

3rd

 

marytesic's avatar

marytesic

0 days

3,973,315

4th

 

Joe-C4's avatar

Joe-C4

853 days

3,738,394

5th

 

Phil-L's avatar

Phil-L

540 days

2,996,593

6th

 

Sū shān's avatar

Sū shān

0 days

2,966,269

7th

 

DanielM112's avatar

DanielM112

145 days

2,687,200

8th

 

LindaS65's avatar

LindaS65

400 days

2,609,592

9th

 

edjbeth's avatar

edjbeth

1,216 days

2,604,488

10th

 

Todd-T9's avatar

Todd-T9

0 days

2,441,373

11th

 

JorgeG's avatar

JorgeG

0 days

2,334,320

12th

 

DouglasB8's avatar

DouglasB8

7 days

2,288,203

13th

 

Mikew****'s avatar

Mikew****

1 day

2,270,092

14th

 

PerryP's avatar

PerryP

0 days

2,004,406

15th

 

Roberta-W3's avatar

Roberta-W3

0 days

1,950,384

JohnH197

JohnH197

Is it a little silly?  Sure, maybe.  But at the same time, who are they harming?  Someone using a bot to artificially increase a score that means nothing does not in any way effect my ability to go through my course in my time in my way.

 

At the same time I do still like having the score to compare against myself, as a way of staying consistent. In no way do I feel the need to compete against other people, regardless of whether they are real or fictional.

nóng fū

nóng fū

I have been working on Rocket Chinese for nearly eight years and have never “cheated” to obtain any points.  In fact, I pay very little attention to the total point accumulations and rankings. For Rocket Languages to allow one of their customers to use the public forum to slander other customers is outrageous and an immediate corrective response is required.

JohnH197

JohnH197

nong fu, I don't think he was calling out any specific individual as cheating so much as giving examples of a perceived issue.  Is your all time score high?  Yes, but as you said you've been actively using the service for almost 8 years, of course it probably should be high.

 

To me at least, other people's scores aren't important.  I study in my own time in my own way (which is part of why I like an online course as opposed to a physical classroom).  At the same time there are others that appreciate being able to gauge progress against other individuals, and that competitive nature can serve as a motivating factor.

 

There are people who might see a leaderboard and “Point Press” to get to the top, artificially increasing their score by spam clicking answers.  They might use a bot to do that considerably faster.  I am not saying anyone here does that, I'm just saying that in a competitive environment there are some individuals who will do whatever they can to get ahead.  

 

In the opening post, lifetime scores were highlighted, and I think that is a very poor point of comparison.  If you take a look at the leaderboards for the past 24 hours, there are some individuals that have over 10,000 points in a 24 hour period.  Is it possible?  Yes.  Is it suspicious?  Maybe.  I think that is what this topic was about.  If there is a leaderboard (and a competitive environment), some degree of oversight might be necessary to keep everyone on a fair competitive field.

 

This all having been said, nóng fū, I admire your dedication.

GaryM41

GaryM41

Ciao a tutti

In my humble opinion points should only be important to yourself, if at all!!

The points system, even if you disregard any potential cheating, is so arbitary, it only gives you an indication of what you are doing.

For example if you spend 30 minutes on the lesson conversation practice you will get considerably more points than if you spend all day understanding, practising and memorizing a new grammatical structure.

It is there to motivate but acts only as an indicator of the amount of work you are doing.

Anyway that's another 100 points on my score for posting this!!!!

We should all just enjoy learning this beautiful new language in our own way and at our own pace.

Regards

Gary

ChrisM108

ChrisM108

For what it's worth to Rocket and others on this thread, I agree with GaryM41, especially his last sentence.  Learning languages is a joy, especially Italian.  

All the best

Chris

 

 

BongiornoFamily

BongiornoFamily

Oh sorry Nong Fu…. I just had looked and clariifed with someone.

Desi2020

Desi2020

Hi Bongiorno, 

I am with you on this. But I also wonder, if some members just have been going for a very long time? But I get you, because I also am a bit competitive and like to check where I am at on the board. It seems to unachievable to ever get to the first place with having to beat such numbers. 

I know to many this might seem silly, but different strokes for different folks and if score checking is what gets us to do that extra task, hey, then that's not a bad thing, right? :) 

Thank you to nong fu for actually answering and putting this right. I was also starting to suspect some cheating and it makes me personally feel better to hear that this isn't the case! So chapeau to you for sticking to to the program for such a long time and good luck with your further studying! 

Desiree

Gabrielle-D

Gabrielle-D

I find that points accumulate the most quickly when practicing the conversations. I've had to do quite a bit of this in the last few days, after coming back to French from a long hiatus. I'm nearly finished Level 1 (I'm currently clawing my way through Module 7, slowly but surely) but I've had to review all the earlier material, so I've just been hitting the phrases and conversations over and over. The one I've practiced the most is the very first one, where they're greeting each other. My reason is because when I try to talk to my French teacher, my mind keeps going blank on saying hello, and then again on saying goodbye. Phrases like salut, comment ça va, ça va bien merci, au revoir, à bientôt, à tout a l'heure, etc just don't come to mind as easily as I'd like. So I spent half an hour today just practicing the first conversation, alternating between Claire's part and Paul's part, over and over and over, trying to make it a little more automatic. The points have stacked up pretty quickly as a result. 

Having said that, I did manage to get to about 12,000 points in a 24-hour period, but I had to be at it all day. Sure, I could “point press” if I wanted to, but that wouldn't get me anywhere with language learning. If that was all I wanted to do all day, I'd find a better video game than the leaderboard! :)

All the best. 

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