lesson 4.8

Ciao

Lesson 4.8

Venite ​verso di lui. The translation Is  You 

Why is it venite not vieni.? I get that, that is maybe for the lui, but then how would you know that it is referring to “you”

Grazie

Maxie

Hi Maxie

I reckon it's because:

• - Voi venite (i.e. plural; ‘you all’)
• - Tu vieni (i.e. singular)

So, the choice is determined by context.  Others may have a different slant.

Ciao

Chris

Hi ChrisM108

Hope you are well. Yes I get it and I knew that, just over think these things sometimes, as there is so much to remember. I was looking at something today. Why is it scorso settimana sometimes, but la settimana scorso at other times. I just have no clue, but you probably know. 

I'm afraid it all drives me a bit crazy. Not even sure why I do all these languages. Will probably never go to Italy. Not on Philip's radar, but my daughters want to go, so maybe an all girls trp. 

Sharon

Hi Sharon

Good, thanks.  Hope the same for you.

As I understand it, they are interchangeable and either can be used equally.  Again, I reckon others will have a different angle.

As for the logic of languages; I like to think there's little rationale in it rather, it's for the love of it.  I wonder if I'll go to Italy these days, but love the language and culture, so I'm more than happy to keep learning.  There's no end game in learning a second language - there's always much more to learn.

Ciao

Chris

Hi Again 

Thanks Chris.

You have a good point. I study languages because I love them, not for an end point. Great motivator.

And thanks for the scorso/scorsa bit

Sharon

Re the travel aspect Sharon, I came across this virtual tour website recently, and am seriously considering booking one: https://www.contextlearning.com/collections/courses/italy

They cover many subjects and topics, and the hosts are PhDs and MAs in their subjects, as opposed to a tour guide.

You can well imagine that in time, even 3D virtual tours will become an ‘immersive experience’!

These sorts of things are better than nothing when unable to travel for whatever reason.

A presto

Chris

Hi ChrisM108

Sounds interesting, will look at it. I guess if you can't actually travel it is beter than nothing. I love to travel. Philip loathes airports, but at least he does it with good grace. Grumbles and mumbles and makes me laugh. Going virtually would be more his cup of tea. I would like to hire a camper and spend 6 months in Europe, would have to take our dog, Maxie with us.

I would then get to practise all the languages I am learning. Am considering Rocket Spanish too, with the sale on.

Sharon

Hi Sharon, 

thanks for your questions!

I noticed that Chris has provided detailed information, thank you so much Chris! I also wanted to confirm that indeed, “venite” refers to the “plural you” (you, group of people), while “vieni” refers to the “singular you”.

Concerning the use of “la scorsa settimana” or “la settimana scorsa”, they are indeed interchangeable:

Sono andata a Pisa la scorsa settimana.--→ I went to Pisa last week.

Sono andata a Pisa la settimana scorsa. --→ I went to Pisa last week.

Hope this helps and happy learning!