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Lesson 8.8 - Sono sposato da cinque anni

CharlesW30

CharlesW30

In Lesson 8.8 we learn that there are two  constructions that we can use when talking about a length of time that started in the past but is currently ongoing.  They are:  (i) [present action] + da + [length of time] and (ii), essere + [length of time] + che + [present action].

When lesson 8.8 asks us to translate, “I have been married for five years,” however, Rocket gives the answer using a construction with passato prossimo + da + length of time . . . “Sono sposato da cinque anni.”  

Why does this sentence use a past tense with “da” for a currently occuring action that started in the past???  Shouldn't the answer be, “Sposo da cinque anni"?

sebongela

sebongela

Hi Charles W30

I know that this doesn't answer your question. I am finding the grammar really hard going and have resorted to book learning. Some of the concepts I have just not managed to get my head around, so now just treat them as increasing my vocabulary and  hopefully it will all make sense at the end. Well that is what I am counting on

A presto

Sebongela

CharlesW30

CharlesW30

Ciao Sebongela,

Thanks for your encouragement.

I took Italian in college several decades ago,  so grammer rules haven't been too extremely tough on me.  I'm definitely rusty with them, though.

My bigger problem is when Rocket presents us with a grammer rule in a lesson, and then includes a sentence in that very lesson that doesn't conform to the rule.  In other words, it's the exceptions to the rules that are driving me crazy.  Rocket doesn't even identify these “snuck in” sentences as being exceptions, much less tell us when, why and how these exceptions should be applied.

-Carlo

sebongela

sebongela

I know CharlesW30 

I agree, drives me a bit crazy too. I see you sign as Carlo. Are you Spanish? My husband is Portuguese, I speak Portuguese, but not grammatically correctly. But am fairly fluent.

Ciao Sharon

caterina-rocket-italian-tutor

caterina-rocket-italian-tutor

Hi Carlo, 

Thanks for your question!

The grammar structure you mentioned is absolutely right, but the sentence you extracted might be a bit misleading - let me try to clarify your doubts :) 

The sentence "Sono sposato da cinque anni" translates as “I have been married for five years”. 

Although it looks like a past tense, "sono sposato" is actually in the present tense. If you look at the verb "sono" (essere), that's in the present tense. 

The past tense would have been "sono stato sposato".

To conclude, although it looks like an exception, this verb is used in the present tense like the other examples.

Please let me know if you need further clarifications and I'll be extremely happy to help :) 
CharlesW30

CharlesW30

Ahhh.  Thank you, caterina-rocket-italian-tutor.  

I thought that “sposato” was being used as an auxilery verb in the passato prossimo; but as you implied, it isn't being used as a verb at all, but as an adjective.  That makes much more sense!

Thanks again,

Carlo/Chuck

caterina-rocket-italian-tutor

caterina-rocket-italian-tutor

That's exactly it! I'm glad I could clarify your doubt, don't hesitate to let me know if you have more questions - sarò felice di aiutarti :)

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