Me estoy....

Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 8, 2015

"Me estoy sintiendo triste."
I am feeling sad.
 
In the above example from lesson 6.5.  Is there a reason for Me in this way?  Couldn't it have been "Estoy sintiendo triste." or "Yo estoy sintinendo triste."?  Why "Me estoy.."?

Gracias,

Rob
Steven-W15

Steven-W15

June 8, 2015

Good question. I did a quick search and came across a terrific response (and learned something in the process):
- HOW do you feel - No me siento bien.
- WHAT do you feel - Siento mucho dolor en el estómago.
Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 8, 2015

Thank you Steven.  Could or should the "estoy" be dropped then?

Does "Me sintiendo triste." also work?

Or is this simply a Spanish reflexive that is sometimes confounding to us English speakers?

 
Steven-W15

Steven-W15

June 8, 2015

Hi again Rob. No, the use of "estar" is obligatory in this context. Otherwise you would be saying something like "I feeling sad" (i.e., without the "am") - you would be understand but...
 
Robert-C7

Robert-C7

June 8, 2015

me estoy sentiendo triste = it is making me feel sad.  The subject and object of the sentence are the same.  Also, this sentence employs the present progressive tense.  You can't just say "me sentiendo triste" as the would sound like us saying "I feeling sad" or "it making me feel sad".
Dan-H24

Dan-H24

June 8, 2015

These reflexive (and reflexive-like) verbs are, I think, difficult for us English speakers to grasp. I find it helpful to try to think of a phrase like yours in a reflexive way and see if it makes any sense at all.

In your example, I am making myself feel sad, makes a bit of sense in this way, although not really in a literal sense. Someone or someone else may be the cause of your sadness, but you are allowing yourself to be affected in this way.

 
Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 13, 2015

Thank you Dan, Robert and Steven.
marieg-rocket languages

marieg-rocket languages

June 16, 2015

Hi Rob,

As you well-mentioned, "Me" is a reflexive pronoun in this case. Reflexive pronouns indicate that a person is performing the action toward or for him- or herself.

The reflexive pronouns are not subject pronouns; rather they are object pronouns.

me (myself)
te (yourself)
se (himself, herself, yourself)
nos (ourselves)
os (yourselves)
se (themselves, yourselves)

The purpose of the reflexive pronouns is to show that the action of the verb remains with the subject.

It is as if you were saying "I am feeling myself sad." Any action (or feeling in this case) that falls upon the same object would need to have a reflexive pronoun.

 
Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 20, 2015

Thank you.  After earlier lessons where we used "Estoy" or "Yo estoy" to mean "I am", it was confusing to see "Me estoy..." .  Thinking reflexively seems to be a key.   Is it that, when you are referring to yourself when using the present progressive, you must use it in a reflexive way?

Thanks for any comments.

Rob
Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 20, 2015

I guess my last post is incorrect since I see this phrase - Estoy comprando unos calcetines.

So now I wonder if it is more about something that is happening to you, like feeling sad, rather than what you are physically doing, like buying socks.  When it is happening to you, reflexive is the choice.  That seems to make sense.  Is that correct?

Rob
ricardo-rich

ricardo-rich

June 20, 2015

Hola Rob,

¡Correcto!  Cepillarse reflexive. Cepillar, not reflexive. Me cepillo los dientes. I brush my teeth Me estoy cepillando los dientes. I'm brushing my teeth. Estoy cepillando el perro. I'm brushing the dog.

Saludos,
Ricardo
Rob-B23

Rob-B23

June 21, 2015

Thank you. Sometimes it takes awhile to process everything. I think I get now. Gracias a todos.

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