Oh dear no response from my plea for help in explaining the accusative and dative!!!
Just in case someone does respond could the also help with the following sentences which I have to complete for my homework!
Accusativ und/oder Dativ? Bilden Sie Sätze im Perfeckt
1. der Trainer/der Fussballspieler/nicht erlauben mitzuspielen
2. die Anwesenden/der Vorschlag/zustimmen
3. die Passanten/die Dame/beistehen
4. die Palament/das Gestetz/beschliessen
5. alle/die Antwort/verweigern
6. das Musikstück/die Besucher (Pl.)/misfallen
7. einige Zuhörer/der Redner/widersprechen.
There are plenty more but when I get the hang of them I will be ok! Its just so confusing knowing which is the dative and accusative!
Many thanks
Dale
Nat where are you???? Help!

santiago
April 23, 2008

(deleted)
April 23, 2008
Hi Dale,
sorry for the delay.
First your homework:
1. der Trainer/der Fussballspieler/nicht erlauben mitzuspielen:
Der Trainer hat dem Fussballspieler nicht erlaubt mitzuspielen.
2. die Anwesenden/der Vorschlag/zustimmen:
Die Anwesenden haben dem Voschlag zugestimmt.
3. die Passanten/die Dame/beistehen:
Die Passanten haben der Dame beigestanden.
4. die Palament/das Gestetz/beschliessen:
Das Parlament hat das Gesetz beschlossen/ Die Parlamente haben das Gesetz beschlossen (not sure why it is plural here? the parliaments??)
5. alle/die Antwort/verweigern
Alle haben die Antwort verweigert.
6. das Musikstück/die Besucher (Pl.)/misfallen
Das Musikstück hat den Besuchern missfallen.
7. einige Zuhörer/der Redner/widersprechen.
Einige Zuhörer haben dem Redner wiedersprochen.
Let's have a look at example 7:
"dem Redner" is dative. The article gives it away, because it is "dem" and the masculine article always changes to "dem" in the dative.
The feminine articles changes to "der" and neuter will become "dem" as well.
Remember that the question word for dative sentences is "to whom" or "with whom". Now if you ask: with whom did the listeners disagree the answer is clearly: the speaker (dem Redner)
For accustaive you ask "whom", so if you look at example 6 you can tell that "den Besuchern" accusative is. The masculien article changes to "den", the feminine and neuter articles don't change.
"who didn't like the piece of music? - the visitors/the audience - den Besuchern.
Does that make it a bit clearer? Feel free to post the rest of your homework as well and I can check it for you on Monday morning.
:D